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The Popperian Podcast

Nov 13, 2022

This episode of the Popperian Podcast features an interview that Jed Lea-Henry conducted with Elyse Hargreaves. They speak about chapter 10 of Karl Popper’s The Open Society and Its Enemies, the nature and often well-meaning origins of totalitarianism, the fall of Athens to Sparta, the betrayal of Socrates and Athenian democracy by Plato and the oligarchical class, and the one factor that Popper had neglected until then in his analysis – happiness, specifically the tyrannical dangers of trying to make people happy.

Elyse Hargreaves is an ardent student of Popper, passionate about advancing the cause of the open society; for freedom, rationality and humanitarianism. Upon finding Popper in her early 20’s, she has since been determined to popularise his ideas in whatever medium she can. Since then, she has released a free audiobook version of Popper’s Conjectures and Refutations on YouTube which you can find here: and has recently released an audiobook version of Rafe Champion’s Guide to the Open Society and Its Enemies which you can find on Audible here: 

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